Thanks Martin. I am not sure if you are actually suggesting that Christians should actually celebrate the OT festivals or merely take on board their significance. I am certainly for the latter as we miss out so much otherwise.
Nevertheless I consider every day is a holiday or festival with Jesus. Perhaps more of an issue nowadays is the 24/7 culture and lack of a real day of rest for the UK. This has allowed wickness to increase, and as has has been said there is no rest for the wicked!
On a side note I see Constantine the Great will anagram to 'On Satan the git centre'. Sadly I think that was his legacy.
Thanks BM for reading my post and taking the time to comment on it.
Yes I think we should keep the OT Festivals as they were also kept by Christ, the Apostles, and all the New Testament Church, including those who were not Jews. (Matt 26:17-19, Mark 14:12-16, Luke 22:7-15, 1Cor 5:6-8, Acts 18:21)
Also we are to align ourselves to Jesus as he is the chief corner stone, and the apostles are the foundations, along with the prophets, of the temple of God. (Eph 2:18-21)
If we don't keep these days then we won't actually understand them, and there is no use just knowing about them but not actually doing them.
There are many Christians who do keep them, but I must admit a lot of them are a bit crazy, so it is far from easy to find a group to share them with. We keep them alone, although we use to go to some groups we have yet to find any group that we feel able to discuss things with them.
Thanks for coming back to me Martin. The danger of saying we should keep the festivals is a return to legalism and works. What someone might chose to do is one thing, but individuals are free in Christ to love and serve first and foremost, not observe past festivals which are superceded in Jesus himself.
He did nevertheless say to remember the passover as a memory of him.
This is in contrast to the sabbath rest which always tied back to God's own creative work and which needs to be observed for our own and society’s benefit.
I am no longer working, technically retired hurt due to facial palsy and reduced energy. My work as such is now online geting the truth out in all its forms. Sadly I do not have a group to meet with for worship. The fellowship I did meet with abandoned commonsense in 2020 and I have not been back.
My wife is a christian and we have just been to a local housegroup which was helpful but it was only one weekly evening over the last 4 weeks.
Sorry to hear of your facial palsy, anything to do with the vaxx???
We have not had it but my wife easily picks up the stuff from those who have had it, and has taken weeks to get over that.
The issue of the Holy Days is closely related to the status of the Jewish nation. Which is a complex topic to say the least.
Galatians 4:8-11 is a contentious section, as it is unclear which law Paul is talking about.
Yet I don't think that God's feasts, which he gave to Israel, which Christ kept, could ever be called "the weak and worthless elemental things". They were revealed by God to Israel as his Holy Days...
What I have found when keeping the festivals as a Christian is that they provide a detailed structure for the plan of God to be set out upon.
We can also see that keeping them from a Christian perspective elevates the physical meanings to spiritual meanings.
Christ is our Passover, as Paul said in 1Cor 5:6-8, and he also said that these Gentiles should keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread:
Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
(1Cor 5:6-8)
He raised the meaning of the feast from putting out physical leaven to the putting out of the spiritual leaven "of malice and wickedness".
That is what "fulfilling the law" means- to raise it to the intent of the law, not just the letter. Which is what Christ did with many other laws on the sermon on the mount.
More detail on this, if you are interested, at this post:
Thanks Martin. I am not sure if you are actually suggesting that Christians should actually celebrate the OT festivals or merely take on board their significance. I am certainly for the latter as we miss out so much otherwise.
Nevertheless I consider every day is a holiday or festival with Jesus. Perhaps more of an issue nowadays is the 24/7 culture and lack of a real day of rest for the UK. This has allowed wickness to increase, and as has has been said there is no rest for the wicked!
On a side note I see Constantine the Great will anagram to 'On Satan the git centre'. Sadly I think that was his legacy.
Thanks BM for reading my post and taking the time to comment on it.
Yes I think we should keep the OT Festivals as they were also kept by Christ, the Apostles, and all the New Testament Church, including those who were not Jews. (Matt 26:17-19, Mark 14:12-16, Luke 22:7-15, 1Cor 5:6-8, Acts 18:21)
Also we are to align ourselves to Jesus as he is the chief corner stone, and the apostles are the foundations, along with the prophets, of the temple of God. (Eph 2:18-21)
If we don't keep these days then we won't actually understand them, and there is no use just knowing about them but not actually doing them.
There are many Christians who do keep them, but I must admit a lot of them are a bit crazy, so it is far from easy to find a group to share them with. We keep them alone, although we use to go to some groups we have yet to find any group that we feel able to discuss things with them.
Cheers for now, Martin
Thanks for coming back to me Martin. The danger of saying we should keep the festivals is a return to legalism and works. What someone might chose to do is one thing, but individuals are free in Christ to love and serve first and foremost, not observe past festivals which are superceded in Jesus himself.
He did nevertheless say to remember the passover as a memory of him.
This is in contrast to the sabbath rest which always tied back to God's own creative work and which needs to be observed for our own and society’s benefit.
I think this link I found answers very well.
https://jesusplusnothing.com/series/post/galatians-4-did-paul-observe-feasts-if-so-should-we
Thanks BM, I will look at the link some time.
So you do keep the weekly Sabbath?
Do you have a group you go to?
I am no longer working, technically retired hurt due to facial palsy and reduced energy. My work as such is now online geting the truth out in all its forms. Sadly I do not have a group to meet with for worship. The fellowship I did meet with abandoned commonsense in 2020 and I have not been back.
My wife is a christian and we have just been to a local housegroup which was helpful but it was only one weekly evening over the last 4 weeks.
Hi BM
Sorry to hear of your facial palsy, anything to do with the vaxx???
We have not had it but my wife easily picks up the stuff from those who have had it, and has taken weeks to get over that.
The issue of the Holy Days is closely related to the status of the Jewish nation. Which is a complex topic to say the least.
Galatians 4:8-11 is a contentious section, as it is unclear which law Paul is talking about.
Yet I don't think that God's feasts, which he gave to Israel, which Christ kept, could ever be called "the weak and worthless elemental things". They were revealed by God to Israel as his Holy Days...
What I have found when keeping the festivals as a Christian is that they provide a detailed structure for the plan of God to be set out upon.
We can also see that keeping them from a Christian perspective elevates the physical meanings to spiritual meanings.
Christ is our Passover, as Paul said in 1Cor 5:6-8, and he also said that these Gentiles should keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread:
Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
(1Cor 5:6-8)
He raised the meaning of the feast from putting out physical leaven to the putting out of the spiritual leaven "of malice and wickedness".
That is what "fulfilling the law" means- to raise it to the intent of the law, not just the letter. Which is what Christ did with many other laws on the sermon on the mount.
More detail on this, if you are interested, at this post:
https://friendswithgod.substack.com/p/gods-timetable-the-appointed-days
cheers for now
Martin